Episode 08: Unpopular Opinions
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Mel: Welcome to the Making An Effort Podcast, the podcast about all the things we make an effort with and some of the things we don't. And this week we are going to talk about unpopular opinions. Well, Gabby, how are you feeling?
Gabby: You say, Oh, I'm so excited about this episode. Um, I, so the other day, Mel put a call out on her Instagram kind of just talking about the fact that we were going to do this episode.
And she was like, if you want to submit your unpopular opinions, please do. And. The comments are brutal salvage. Literally you just go to Mel's feed there's. Well, there's a lot that I was like personally offended by what you said.
Mel: um, and this is what is so funny. And actually I think, um, and obviously mostly the people that I follow and that follow me on Instagram are women.
And I just think. I think I opened a door and was like half a ramp out of a rant. And all of the women, all of the women were just like, you know what, screw this. I'll tell you what, this is what I had.
Gabby: They weren't even unpopular opinions. Someone was like, I hate when, you know, people who don't have children park in the mother and children spots, and I'm like, You should hate that let's tear up.
Mel: And then someone else was like, I hate that they're even his mother and children's spots, like just like walk your prom from the car park to then just shop. Like it's no big deal.
Gabby: Oh my goodness. Okay. I'm glad I didn't see that comment because I would have probably got stuck in whoever you are. I love you, but also.
You don't understand. Maybe you do understand. Yeah.
Mel: I mean, I, what I want to know about that is at what age is it still appropriate? If you have a child to par, right?
Gabby: You can't just be rocking up there with a 17 year old. Like that's not, no, not, not about Hayes my child.
Mel: I think if your kids can walk, you know, a hundred meters. You probably don't need that parking space. Right? Like I think it's more for people who are getting out of their car, need a bit of space to like open a door wide, get a problem. I get a car seat. That kind of shit.
Gabby: Here's what I'll say about those spaces in Northern Ireland, as someone who drives, who's driven in Northern Ireland, your spaces are so small.
They're really tiny. All your cars are small, but we have a big one because we always have to carry all of Chris's like guitars and blah, blah, blah for shows and stuff like that when there are shows. So I'm just driving around these little tiny, Northern Irish roads with this massive. Car. And I'm an American, who's not used to parking in like symbol sized spaces, big roads, big parking spots.
Yeah. And so I am so happy when I can pull up to a mother and child parking space because I know I'm going to have to like, Trendal my child out the side of the car and it's going to be a whole drama. And I'm already, I've already parked completely crooked because I can't park in the UK.
Mel: And so I am very grateful for those spots I could not do without the old, the old sensors, the beep beep beeps on my car.
Like I will, I will ever be able to go back to another car that doesn't give me the signal when I'm too close.
Gabby: The sensors. I hate since we're talking about I'm so great. If they stress me out. Yes. And you're like, literally just shut it off, but I'll tell you
Mel: what I rely on them. I rely on them so hard that actually, if that was, if it was broken, if it was taken away, like I'd have a fully bind up car, for sure.
Okay. So it's the thing is after I told Dave that we were going to do this unpopular opinion thing, he's like, Oh, Like the radio one segment. And I was like, what do you mean? And he's like, and then he's saying the jangle, the common data, something unpopular opinion, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. And I was like, Oh, I totally remember they had that segment, but I'm also going to say.
That's great. That's a great segment. Um, I'd forgotten about that, but also I'm going to say radio too, is where superior than radio one. Whoa.
Gabby: Yeah. Do you think anyone has like called it and said that to radio?
Mel: Here's the thing? I think if you are under the edge, this doesn't bode well for Dave, not really. Well, he doesn't really know maybe for like a bit of a Ravi tune on a Friday night. Uh, and the McDonald's and the McDonald's drive through.
Gabby: Um, Oh, okay. So radio one is like very popular music. Okay. So I would probably listen to it for like my Ariana Grande's effects. Yes, you would. For sure. Yeah. Okay. Okay, great. Mel: But if you want. You know, if you want your I'm trying to think of like, uh, you know, okay.
Gabby: Here's the thing. I don't want to go into like a whole, like deep dive on about British radios, but I will say as an American, who's spent some time in the UK. One of the things that I think is hilarious is like you go on radio too.
And it's like, all right, next up, we're hearing from and she's coming in from the small town of Russian blah, blah, blah. And here's her like song. She came up with, made up entirely of pots and pans and you're like, Oh, there's a reason why this, this doesn't get played that often. No offense, well done.
Mel: I don't know that radio two is like that radio two is more like, you know, Mega mega middle-aged really?
And that is, that is definitely a strong opinion of mine is I have outgrown radio one and have progressed into radio two worlds. And so then the ones that I had put up on Instagram, where I don't get the hyper on Schitt's Creek, I don't like baths, pastor boring. A non is way overpriced that those were my.
Saying style. I feel like if it's okay. I want to give just a little bit of explanation around them.
Gabby: Okay, wait, hold on. Can I just, I J you can. I just wanted to put a disclaimer at the top and say, this is all just for fun. We're not here to hate on anything. We obviously, I just know we're going to get someone who's going to be like, well, my unpopular opinion is that people shouldn't be so negative.
And I just want to say that we see you and we're not in here to try and like have a big negativity party. We're just having a bit of fun. We can bond over these things and we can talk about them. And we're not going to talk about it. Talk about anyone disparagingly. We're just talking about the things that we're kind of ashamed to admit that we don't like.
Yeah.
Mel: So Schitt's Creek is definitely one. I have, I have persevered through almost three seasons. Wow. And I am still kind of like, yep. I can watch it. Yeah. I get. That David Rose is Rose as it. Yeah. That he is like, they're Berlin characters, but I'm also. I'm just not, I'm not like grabbing the remote and go and Oh yeah. And I'm not like looking at the names and going that is so good or that has such a Moira Rose thing today, or like, I'm just not just the hype that has surrounded it. I don't fail. Isn't keeping with its levels of funniness or entertainment.
Gabby: It's I do get that. So the first time I like the first time I tried to watch it, I got two episodes in and I was like, this is boring.
Um, for me, what really got me into Schitt's Creek was I, the fact that I fell in love with Moira Rose the character. And everything that she is. And then my love for her kind of spilled over into the other characters. And I would, I mean, but even as someone who loves Schitt's Creek and thinks that it's hilarious and brilliant, I probably wouldn't.
Like sit down to binge it. Like, I would like another comedy show, like the office, which I know there's plenty of people who hate the office. I'm sure all of them are in your comments.
Mel: Well, there was a little bit, there was a little bit of that chat, but what I would say, um, one of my continued, no. Okay. I have to be careful about what, how I say this.
I am going to call it that the UK office. It's better than the U S office. That's maybe my unpopular opinion. So what I would say about that, and my reason for that is that Michael Scott, I adore as a character as a whole concept. I adore it, but there was something so. Genius new, exciting, and painful by the UK office that I just didn't feel translated.
It became a totally different show, which is totally fine, but I would still on have watched the UK office. I don't know, a hundred times, a hundred times, no, but close to it. Do you have, and I quote the UK office every single day at each other.
Maybe it also was one of those series that when we were first together, like when we first started going out, we watched together. And those kinds, you know, the way nostalgic gets attached to those things. And you're like, Oh yeah, that was the funniest time. Or that was such a good time. Maybe it was a bit of that as well.
But I, I love the U S office. I didn't make it past the S I didn't make it past season seven, and I don't want to give any spoilers about that, but I just, I just stopped, but I did love it. I did love it. But it's true. There's not a superior.
Gabby: Yeah. I don't really care about either enough to get like, fully into that argument.
But I will say the first time that I started watching the UK office, I didn't understand a single word anyone was saying. And so I had to stop because the accents were just so like, Thick and British. And now here I am just like shooting the breeze with someone from Northern Ireland. Um, I've really grown.
Mel: That's all changed for the better. Um, but speaking of the office, the UK office, uh, stale said that she just doesn't get Ricky Jarvis. Like she just doesn't find him funny at all. That's an, is that an unpopular opinion? I'm not sure. There was a lot of people who agreed with her.
Gabby: Um, I feel like he's very divisive.
Like he's like, uh, so right. Yeah. He would be aware about the fact that some people just think he's brilliant and some people just don't get it. Um, I, I did well March one of his stand up pieces with Chris and we always quote one of the things that he says, well, it's not a really a quote, but. He and his brother, he talks about he, how he and his brother had this deal that they made at some point growing up where if one of them thinks of something funny, no matter the context or the thing, they have to say it out loud because like I've put it on the alter of it being funny and.
Well, I don't agree with that at all. I do kind of think that commitment to hilarity is actually very impressive.
Mel: Absolutely. Um, yeah. Okay. So my take on Ricky DVS is that he is very tuned in to the human condition, the human psyche and I something like afterlife the show. And yes. And Derek, if you haven't seen Derek, I think it's on Netflix.
Um, but it was, this was a show about, this is a show he did a few years ago and extras. So he, you know, they are all extras is a bit more kind of the office style of like . Yeah. Comedy, but afterlife and Derek are two of the most beautiful heartwarming TV shows. He really touches a nerve and every direction he knows how to do that, but I think it finds a stale, said she finds it almost like.
Um, it reminds her of being like taste at school. Like that feeling of like, Hey, he's like the, he's like the rude boy that says the rude things to people and make some sense.
Gabby: Does it like. Let it go. Like it's like, just let it go. Yeah, no, totally. I agree with, I completely agree with that take for sure.
Mel: Yeah. I mean, that's how he's made his money is really being the guy that will say anything.
Gabby: Right. I did think his, uh, speech, well, I think it was, was it the Oscars or the golden Globes last year where he, it was like after, right after me too stuff. Yeah, that whole movement. And he just called everyone out and it was cringy and amazing.
And I was like, wow, like you could tell, like they, the camera would like pan across the audience. Yeah. And some people were like, not happy. Like they were like, this is too far. And then there would be some people who were just like, yes, we've been waiting for someone to say this the whole time.
Mel: I think it was him hosting the golden Globes.
Gabby: Yes, he was hosting. Sorry. Yep. Oh
Mel: yeah. The monologues that night that were just like, he just takes it right to the bone. Yeah. Okay. What are some of your unpopular opinions?
Gabby: Okay. So I want to preface this by saying that I don't have many. And made me realize that I'm actually just completely basic.
Mel: That's not true. Come on.
Gabby: Well, I was just thinking about it. I was like, I love popular culture. Like I love popular music. I love popular TV. I love memes. I love all this stuff. Um, but I do have a few things come on then. Uh, probably my most controversial and the one that I'm going to get. All the DMS about is going to be the fact that I cannot stand musicals.
And I think music, music, like no offense. I think you guys are great, but when you get in the music or nerd, world and musical theater, yep. That's a difference to the music world music world. Cool. And edgy musical theater. I don't even have a box for it. I just,
Mel: I bet you do have a bike, but you just don't want to be unkind.
Gabby: I just, I don't get the high we're singing things that we know would normally say, just say it's fine. Okay. Also the rest of us are Mel: doing, I remember the first time. Dave ever saw Les MIS well, like the movie we went to see. Yeah. We went to see lamb as the movie, you know, with Hugh Jackman and Anne Hathaway, um, and the theater and like Dave, my whole family, we're all into musicals. My brother is. In musical theater. Um, he has like, I was fine. I was in like musical theater all through school, um, big farms and I took Dave to see lemurs and the cinema. And like, if I have 15 minutes and he turned to pay and he was just like, it's, it's the whole thing again.
Oh Pat. Yeah. Yeah. It is the whole thing. You're here for
Mel: three words, but by the end he was like, can you hear the peep? He was all up for the French revolution. Um,
Gabby: so there are some, you know, in musicals, defenses. Defense. I don't know how you would grammatically say that sentence, but I did go and see Leymah's live and it did make me cry.
I have to say, Oh, there's nothing like, you know what else? You know, what else makes me cry? And of green Gables, a friend
Mel: about a really good baguette stared show version of Anne of green Gables. Um, played by Jennifer Aniston eating or we get,
Gabby: I mean, sign me up.
Mel: I reckon. I don't know. Maybe it's an
Gabby: upbringing, you know what, I'm sorry. I have to interrupt the worst thing that my, like, I will skip. This so fast, you have no idea when TV shows, Oh yes. Not musicals do a musical episode,
Mel: the biggest culprit,
Gabby: terrible like, gosh, terrible river Riverdale does this. And it's like, I can't even tell you how fast I will skip that episode. I will cancel
Mel: Shonda Rhimes for those musical episodes of grace. I was like this. There's there's no, like somebody on the cast was like, I would love to like showcase my singing.
Gabby: Um, yeah. Um, that is a hundred percent. What happened were like, you know, we have so much raw talent here. I'm like, We did not sign up for this.
Mel: Keep your challenging yourself, the musical. So yeah, like when is laughing like that, but tell me, like, there's a reason why you cried at Leymah's and it's because the theater live theater is so, Oh, it's so emotive you tell you what is going to make me cry at the drop of a hat is when someone starts a standing ovation and, and, and Gabby: they respect.
Yeah, I was going to say, but that's going to make you cry. It can make you cry at like a fricking child science fair. Like it's not gonna, it's not linked to do with necessarily
Mel: what's up tell you what is I felt, okay. This is probably going to really ruffle some feathers, but I, I would say that the over-hype of Hamilton.
Gabby's eyes.
Gabby: I wasn't even going to touch Hamilton. Okay. So I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I do have one for, well, prior to this episode where I've just unleashed a world of wrath on myself willingly. The only other person I have previously confessed. My dislike of musicals too, is my friend Jess.
And I did text her. And said and asked her when Hamilton came to Disney, plus I was like, okay, you know, me, you know, I can't cope. Will I like this? And she was like, I'm not like, you know, I think you would basically. So she was saying, I think you're, it's a different kind of musical to what you're in digital.
I've no, not yet. I do have intentions of watching it then. Yeah. So what I'll say, because I love some of the tracks and Hamilton, like I've got helpless, uh, on a, on a playlist for when I go for a run, there's some like, really amazing tracks. On that same track. And maybe if I saw it live, I would feel differently.
But watching, watching the stage show on a TV just as not my thing, that's not my thing. Really. I'm just not interested. It doesn't give the same effect. So maybe I just need to see it live. Cause I know so many people be like, what? How can you not love Hamilton?
Gabby: Anyway, I have friends who have seen it live like. Multiple times. I know they're trying to see it as many times as possible, which I don't know. I kind of love a moment like that. So. All right. What else do you got? So the other one that I'm probably going to regret broadcasting is open concept homes. I know. Okay, well just cancel myself now. Talk us through it.
Okay. To be fair. I haven't always been like this. Like I watch HGTV as much as the next person. Um, I was all, I used to be all about, you know, seeing through walls and busting them down and all of that stuff. But actually Chris has brought me around on this one because. He, I don't know if it's just growing up in the UK.
Like every room is like very, you know, it's just a room separate and they're all connected by hallways. And so when he came to the States, he was like, I hate that. Like the kitchen is in the living room and I was like, I love that. You know, you can like cook and see your friends. And it's like this big happy family, but as I have kind of. Well, as a result, we've never lived in an open concept home because he has always won that particular, uh, debate. But now I have to say I'm in complete agreement because there is just something about like being able to make a mess in the kitchen, not have the whole place stink up. I think especially kitchens being more than just kitchen's right.
Is hard for me. Yeah. I don't mind like, uh, a kitchen, family den, or like a kitchen, sun room, like that's different. Cause it's kind of like a casual hanging space, but when it goes like kitchen, here's our living room or here's our entrance. Like it starts to all feel a bit like muddled and there can be like a dividing wall. It doesn't have to be like a door. But some kind of like container. Do you like you liked the
Mel: barriers, you like the separation? Um, yes. I know what you mean. I think that you are less interested. Are you are more interested in being able to close a door to a kitchen and leave the mess there and enter a different space.
Gabby: I am unlikely to ever handle that idea.
Gabby: Well, so we haven't,
Mel: we have opened up. Do you know that you've been in my house? We opened up. Our space from three rooms into one big L-shaped room. Um, no, I, our kitchen isn't in our living room. It is a galley kitchen that is separate. Um, and what I, what I, what I will say is that it's not for everybody.
And also. When we did it, we didn't expect that we were going to all be at home so much all of the time. So we're not looking at, or can we create another living room that has walls and doors in our Gabby: interesting. Are you saying that you are having regrets or you're just like re-imagining no, no saying we need a second living room.
Mel: Yeah. Yeah, fair enough. Somewhere that I can be where there's nobody else. That's not my bedroom or a toilet. Yes. Do you have any other unpopular opinions? Um,
Gabby: no, not a ton of hardcore ones. I think the other one that I really, I mean, We could talk. I could talk about food unpopular payments.
Mel: I will get me a couple. M aria actually had a really good one. She
Gabby: said, Oh, she did. She didn't answer
Mel: overrated. She said,
Gabby: and here's my caveat. So some of my best friends are donut makers and they are. I want to say, just other worldly, how good they are
Mel: have had when you, when you do it right? The life changing donut.
Gabby: Yes. It makes all the difference.
But I agree with Maria in that there are a lot of people just like doing the, the donuts where it's like. They just got a million, they've got a million toppings on them and no, they're not well considered. They're just like, yeah. I don't know. Kind of garish
Mel: the top and just sugar bombs and some of the like fancy two Pines for a donut shops.
Aren't, they're not as nice as the two pones for 12 donuts and Tesco kind of. Things, I will say that, um, also we have these, we have these like square donuts, if that's even possible for a donut to be square and that you can get in Tesco or Asda or any of your supermarket chains called Yamil gums, which are actually.
They do far superior to a donut in general. Um, but one of the best donuts that I've ever had was from guilt trip, which is a coffee and donut chain here in Northern Ireland. And they do make the really fancy donuts, but they're like really good quality really considered probably like your friend's donuts.
Um, yeah. And they had this one that was like, Oh, it had like candy pistachios all over it. And I just like, and those things just get into your TAFE and you're just enjoying that donut for like ours after so delicious. Um, so I do get Weimer. My wife, Maria is like donuts are overrated because some donuts absolutely are.
Gabby: Wow. My unpopular food opinions. Uh, one. Catch up is disgusting to Mayo is maybe even worse. So I don't, I, I don't eat either like ever, ever I will not touch
Mel: either. Yeah. There is nothing more delicious than Mexican ketchup and Mayo and dip and really hot French fries into it.
Gabby: Well, Nope. We had a perfectly good fry
Mel: of like condiment, uh, discussion on that Instagram post as well.
There was a lot of people who were like, condiments are totally stupid and ridiculous, which I just feel like condiments are, Gabby: it's not a blood. Yeah. It's not a blanket like condiment hating situation. I love. Comments. I just don't like those two,
Mel: the other one that kept coming up food-wise was that avocados are stupid and theirs.
They have no flavor. And I'm going to say that's probably true. Okay.
Gabby: I feel like that's true. I'm just going to say, and I don't know. I mean, yes, they're definitely on the blender side, however, I don't know where those people are are from who commented, but if they're from Northern Ireland, I have yet to have a good avocado that gets to Northern Ireland because when you have, uh, an avocado that is, is from California, where you're like in Texas and it's just come over the border from Mexico, it is.
So good, so creamy, so full of flavor. And I feel like sometimes the further you get away from the avocado origin, the worse it gets, because I actually looked into this, they end what they ended up doing to make avocados travel is they pick them before they're ripe and then they ripen for the two weeks while they're in transit. And so of course, it's going to take taste terrible. So I do think there is, I think those people are probably correct, but I also think that depending on where they live, they might have never had a choice.
Mel: Sad, really isn't it for us because I would eat them as like a, it's a healthy fat it's, it's not terrible.
Um, you know, with, uh, Wonky poached, egg and toast of some sort of Sardou variety. Um, but it does need a lot of salt and it needs a good chili flake of some sort or a balsamic something.
Gabby: Yeah. It's like, if you treat it like butter, Hmm. I love, although butterfly, I mean talk about things that the Northern Irish people do incredibly, right?
There's nothing better than Irish butter, butter, New York. I could eat that off of spin.
Mel: Right. And tell you what don't be coming at me with your, with your flora or even your Lurpak on your, for your potatoes. Like that is just SAC religious in every way. Um, what else? Oh, there was a lot of chat, which I thought was like, Kind of interesting crossover about tea and high tea should be mirrored.
Gabby: and the, I can't weigh in on this at all.
Mel: Absolutely. Like T that's not out of the pot, it's disgusting. Um, but we, we make tea in our, in the cup, in our house and my dad and my brother are total. Snobs about it. They're just like, Oh, you got a pod on, I just put a pot on my desk. Like I can test it if it's been made in the cup.
Even if I don't say you didn't it, I can taste it.
Gabby: Chris. That's a hundred percent, whenever we're in the UK, it's like every cup of tea I make. It's like a performance review and I'm just so over it, like, what do you think this is like British bake off. Like you I'm making the tea that I know how to make and I didn't grow up.
I can't chase the like slight variations between yeah. A cup made and an apartment,
Mel: but I know there's something about the stew, the stewing of it.
Gabby: yeah, so that's a triggering word for me. The stew is a stewing on the T Y yeah. Well, cause I, so I've done this thing where I'm like, okay, so you have to do it.
You have to do it. I'm like, okay, great, great. And then I serve Chris. The cop is like, Oh, you overstayed it.
Mel: I'm like I can't anymore. So in a way, yeah.
Um, Kate actually on Instagram said that, uh, sleeping in bed and separate beds to your husband is actually brilliant. This was her unpopular opinion. And I'm going to go ahead. And tell you that. I agree with that.
Gabby: Yeah. I mean, getting a good night's sleep on your own is pretty great for sure. My goodness.
Like when, if we, we don't have, I mean, we just have the one bed, but when we're at hotels, a lot of times they'll be like, Hey, see ya. Well, not too. Well, I mean, we we've never really asked for it, but like sometimes you get those like two bed, like two full sized beds. Just automatically and starfish always sleep.
Yes. Yeah. Thank you very much. We'll always sleep separately. Cause it is, I mean, it is more comfortable.
Mel: Let's be real and genuine at this stage in the game of parenting and lockdown life. I wrecked our kids sleep went totally haywire, um, during the first lockdown. So we, Dave and I started to like, we're like, we need to, we need to, one of us needs to get a good night's sleep here at some stage.
So we started to alternate. You know, you put the kids to bed and you stay in our bed and say to whoever gets up in the night and then the other person gets a night off bedtime routine and gets to go up to the attic, to the spare pages. I'll tell you what, that was a system that has served us well for at least.
One person getting a really good night's sleep
Gabby: and we don't.
Mel: And I think there's a lot of, like, you don't sleep in the same bed as your husband. I'm like, no, but I get a great night's sleep. And all the things that you can do in your bed that Murray people should do, you don't necessarily need to sleep in the same bed to do them.
So, you know, it's true.
Gabby: It's true. I think that's a good one. I saw a meme the other day that was like, so you're telling me if I get married, I don't get to have my own room. And I'm like, yeah, I kind of want my own room to be fair.
Mel: Like it a really hit me deep. Actually.
Gabby: I know. I know. Just like, yeah. I don't know. I think maybe especially, I don't know when you have kids and you're like, I have no room to myself, no space that is untouched, but anyway, All right. What else do we go on this?
Mel: So I'm Marie said three, our fellow limbs just should not be a thing. Like why, why does a movie need to be three RS? Like it doesn't let you have a
Gabby: brick for there's at least two bathroom
Mel: breaks and the least, what about snacks? Do you need to refill your snacks? No, all of that. And I kind of agree with that. I think there's no Nate. Yeah. Maybe he shouldn't be like longer than two hours.
Gabby: Really? Yeah. I agree on the same note, I saw a lot of people on that thread really had a lot to say about Lord of the rings, star Wars, Narnia, Harry Potter.
And I just want to say to those people, that's fine. I just don't think fantasy is for you. And you should probably just have the self-awareness to just know I'm not a fantasy person. That's me to move on with your life. You know? Yeah, because you really don't have to be. And, uh, but I do get it like it, like as someone who has never hopped on the Hamilton cultural moment, it is the worst.
When you feel a little bit left behind or left out from something else, everyone else is enjoying, but you do you, so then you don't work. You do UBU. Exactly.
Mel: I don't think I can really pull off say on that in a Northern Irish accent. You do you.
Gabby: Oh my God.
Mel: Yeah, no. Um, I see, I thought is not my bag, even. I saw you posted today on stories about stranger things. I just, I just haven't been able to enter into it because it goes a bit. Fantasy.
Gabby: Um, I mean it, 100% does I think, yeah. I just think there are people who don't like the fantasy thing and that's okay. I would say I, I have, I love Lord of the rings. Love, Narnia, love stranger things. Don't like any of the star Wars, star Trek. No, uh, that whole thing, like, I just don't get it. Um, but also, uh, maybe my unpopular opinion is I think aliens are real, but maybe that's becoming less on popular and more mainstream.
Okay. Mainstream
Gabby: or I don't really know what there is to say more about that, but I just think when you look at the like, scientific likelihood that we're alone or not likelihood. The improbability that we are alone.
Mel: you've taken check and your deconstruction way too far.
Gabby: That's rich.
But wait, do you think that I've never thought of aliens as me, or like believing in aliens as being like, uh, something that conflicts with faith? Really? Why would it, yeah. Why would it. Cause in my head, I'm like, like, so, I mean, I am a Christian and I believe that I believe that God created the world, including it, that we live in.
Gabby: And I'm like, but there's so much imagination, so much scope for like possibility just because we haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't mean it's true.
Mel: I mean, that is essentially the basis of. Religion in general. Gabby: Yeah. Yeah. You're believing in stuff you haven't right. So was it so much of a stretch to believe that there's nothing I would say it is.
Gabby: I am not saying I know.
Mel: I absolutely I'm open to mystery of any kind, um, including aliens, including other life forms on other planets. Et cetera, but I would say that getting into, maybe it's more like conservative Christianity here in Northern Ireland, it would be a wee bit woo. To really flip it idea or concept of aliens with, with, you know, concrete.
Gabby: Oh, Bible. Okay. Well, I'm sorry if you're listening and that offended you. I guess I. To me, it fits very well within my faith structure. Um, and we can have a chat in my DMS about it if you want.
Mel: I am really, I'm really in the whole, I think maybe, maybe the thing is that the whole Elian stuff has often been conflicted with conspiracy. Right. And let that
Gabby: totally pooed, I mean, And I'm I'm I know the word conspiracy is a bit of a trigger word these days, but. I also love a good, I love a good conspiracy. Not in that. I believe all of them, but I just kind of love the story of it. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Mel: Yeah. I think I do. I think it's interesting, but
Gabby: it doesn't mean that I subscribed to all of them. I just kind of am like, Oh, that's a nice story. However, I don't think that, um, aliens are a conspiracy. I think hiding them has been
Mel: who's hiding them Gabby.
Gabby: I don't know the government. What, yeah.
Mel: Who are you? Hillary Clinton. Probably she's in charge of aliens.
Gabby: Probably. I don't know. I haven't, I'm not one of those people who's done.
Like, I don't know why I said hi by the way. No, the Clintons are totally alien believers by the way. Yeah, bill Clinton came out after his presidency and he was like, yeah, just so you know, there's totally like alien artifacts in that are being held by the us government. And I believe in aliens. Yeah, what I, maybe I'm making that up, but I I'm pretty sure that I read that or heard that somewhere.
Mel: Okay. There's a rabbit hole for everybody to just sink right down.
Gabby: After this episode, this episode has gone off the
Mel: rails. Sorry guys, if that, if this has been a bit, like if your Google searches all over the show, I just get so
Gabby: much hate mail.
Mel: I'm like, here's the thing, dang. This is what I'm, you know what?
Some people were being a bit like defensive about stuff, but like thus breakdown that these are unpopular opinions. This is not like, this is the truth. It is, this is how I feel about this. Yeah. Um, and that's all it is. It's just. Uh, thoughts and feelings about things that contrary to many people's likes things that we and other people have find not to be true or dislike.
Gabby: So that's all it is really. Yeah. Yeah,
Mel: that's kind of fun to say the moat load and just be like, Oh, I feel so relieved for saying that like people were, people were getting on a boat like David Attenborough and hi, he's overhyped.
Gabby: That really made me sad. Cause I was such a Fitch. I'm an Attenborough Stan, for sure.
Mel: I mean, there's things that are absolutely standard unpopular opinions. Like yeah. Starbucks coffee. Isn't great. Or
Yeah, there's a lot of Starbucks hitters, but you know, we've talked about, but also Starbucks,
Gabby: thank you for your ministry. I mean, yeah.
Mel: Thank you. That I can drive a car up to a window and someone puts a coffee in my hand.
Gabby: It's hard to put a price on that, except you totally can. It's like two pounds, three pounds,
Mel: plus your petrol.
Gabby: That's right. Okay.
Mel: Yeah, we should wrap it up. We should wrap this up. Okay, well look, thank you so much for submitting all of those that really made us laugh and was so fun to get into, um, a lot of them here and in the comments section of that, of that post as always, we really love hearing from you so you can be in contact with us.
Um, any which way you please, you can contact me on Instagram @melwiggins
Gabby: And you can contact me @gabLlewellyn. And I did want to say that if you ever have a, we thought about any of the things that we've shared on any of the episodes and you want to send in a voice memo. Uh, we have, uh, instructions about how to do that on our website, making an effort, podcast.com and it's very easy and you just record it on your phone and send it off to us.
And, uh, we will maybe play it. Um, so yeah, just feel free to do that whenever and we will see you next week. Bye everybody. Bye.
